03:11pm
Jan 17, 2002 PST
I would be interested in suggestions for
accounting for employees in C&P. To me there are three options:
- track it all (including benefits, sick time, holidays etc) to
cost of sales
- only charge cost of sales with actual billable hours and then expense the
rest
- enter employees and all the costs associated with them as an expense and
not part of direct costs.
Any other creative ways would be much appreciated! We are a small
agency (15 people) and I'm trying to keep it simple.
Elizabeth Love
CSG Inc.
03:12pm
Jan 17, 2002 PST
SecondWind (many of know of this organization) says that staff
time should always be overhead and never part of direct costs.
I have always disagreed with that. I charge employees burdened
cost to the job. It's not the most simple way, but you will be
glad when you review productivity schedules.
Roxanne Cowan
Rutherford Bolen Group Integrated Marketing
03:13pm
Jan 17, 2002 PST
Just to keep it easy I would suggest the following
1) those persons who are directly related to generating income
for more than 70% of their job function put them in a direct cost
of sales category 2) those person who are not directly related
to generating income for more than 70% of their job function should
go into operating expenses. 3) if you track owners income or income
by group you can further sub divide the above by many parts.
As far as sick time and holidays and etc. I would set up an internal
non billable job ticket and add a task for each item that you want
to track. If at the end of the year or at an employee review you
can separate out by task by employee so you can see the hours that
are involved in each of the categories that you pick (for operations)
If you are using an outside agency to do payroll you can have
them place the employees in groups so when the journal entry is
made you can actually hit the accounts in a summary format.
Also as a quick note you may want to assign job costs to each
of the employees for the allocation of overhead. The easiest and
most basic way is to take all you indirect costs and compare them
to the direct employees costs. Once you get this ratio take that
as a multiplier and apply it to the employee's pay rate. This is
just a quick way to get reports for each job at the rate that will
incorporate all the indirect costs (or operating costs).
I think that will take care of all the items that you mentioned
while keeping it simple. I have a spreadsheet that i use for the
generation of the journal entries for a payroll entry off the reports
that i receive from my outside service. I have 5 departments that
are tracked - 1 for each of the 4 groups as well as one that spreads
the expense over the 3 cost of sales groups.
William Riendeau
Brown & Company Graphic Design, Inc.
03:13pm Jan 17, 2002 PST
We use #2. I charge payroll directly into
cost of sales, then at the end of each month back out non-billable
hours into overhead. Non-billable does not mean overruns on a
job -- those stay in the job. It's just the various administrative
and internal tasks that come out. We're set up as a client with
various jobs so these can be easily isolated on the time reports.
(n.b.: My costs for the personnel are set up to include an allocation
of general overhead and non-billable time, not just straight
payroll cost, so the job is effectively charged for "expected" non-billable
time. This also reflects in the WIP adjustment at the end of
each month.)
Brent A. Byrd
Point Zero, Inc. |