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01:51pm Jun 21, 2001 PST (#1 of 14)

If you have more than one...

If you have more than one printing spec for a job. Is there a way to save your information without deleting the old one? What we are doing is to print them then rewrite over the older ones. Is there a better way?

Ed Miller


01:51pm Jun 21, 2001 PST (#2 of 14)

Just this week I have...

Just this week I have been having the same problem, and my work-around is to create additional jobs for the complimentary printing pieces, in our case, we have a 36-pg book, outer envelope, invitations and invitation envelopes. I just poked around and found out how to create a "Client Project" which allows you to link several jobs together, each with its own printing spec sheet. I do not put anything else on the additional jobs (no time, no expenses, etc), I just use them for the print specs and the printing estimates.

hope this helps,

Cynthia Gale


01:52pm Jun 21, 2001 PST (#3 of 14)

You can't have multiple...

You can't have multiple print specs or even worse a job with multiple print components. We simply save off the old versions as Change Orders so at least you have the pricing and specs captured.

Jerry Bray


01:52pm Jun 21, 2001 PST (#4 of 14)

What about:

clone the job, but don't fill in all the estimate, budget details. Then use the specs module for a revised or alternate spec sheet. Number the job so that it is obviously a companion job. (eg: JOB-001 is original job, JOB-001A is the "second spec").

Roxanne Cowan


01:52pm Jun 21, 2001 PST (#5 of 14)

Sometimes we lump up...

Sometimes we lump up to three different job specs on one sheet by using a field to hold a description. I am looking at one now that has "Door Hanger", "Paper Wrap" and "Mailing Label" in the "folded size" field. Since all three go to the same quick printer there's no real need for more than one job ticket. However...

We were using a custom database in Filemaker to track our job specs, but I wanted to keep everything in C&P. To do that we had to rethink what we considered a "job". Now, each part of a project that has a separate print spec gets a separate Job Ticket, and we use Projects to bill them together. It makes it easier to organize complex campaigns where every piece has a different schedule, vendor, etc.

Chelsea Hoffmann
Impact Media


01:53pm Jun 21, 2001 PST (#6 of 14)

Isn't this a situation where...

Isn't this a situation where you can use your three different estimate columns within one job. I label mine as Option 1, 2, 3 or leave the first column as creative, plus the recommended print costs, then let columns two and three be Option I and Option II for printing.

Just a thought. Note, when you use all the columns, when you go to print the estimate, it asks you which estimate columns to print.

Shelley W. Holloway
General Manager Young Isaac, Inc.


02:57pm Jul 5, 2001 PST (#7 of 14)

It just seems to me...

It just seems to me that opening multiple job tickets for the same project just so you can have room for multi-part print estimates is a major hassle. Which job do the people charge their time against? Even with the Client Project scenario you still have a lot of extra job numbers floating around.

Jerry Bray


02:58pm Jul 5, 2001 PST (#8 of 14)

We too open separate jobs...

We too open separate jobs and link them as a project. Annually, we have a large print job that consists of booklet, 2 different envelopes, 2 or 3 inserts, etc. We not only open separate jobs for print specs, but they are tracked separately and delivered separately to the mailing house. We also estimate separately and then can combine for an overall project cost. It allows for flexibility.

Shelly Constantz


02:59pm Jul 5, 2001 PST (#9 of 14)

The best answer to all...

The best answer to all our problems here would be for Clients & Profits to accept multiple printing specs for one job, or to connect jobs in a better way than as a Project. I'd like to put this on the wish list for C&P -- a single job number that can handle several different printed pieces as far as printing specs and estimates go, but then can be billed as one job.

mindy mcCain
Miller Brooks, Inc.


02:59pm Jul 5, 2001 PST (#10 of 14)

When creating the...

When creating the "print spec only" jobs, we use only the task code for Printing/Vendor Expense. That way, no one can add time to the job without having to first add a task, which we have relegated to account managers when they set up the jobs.

Cynthia Gale


03:03pm Jul 5, 2001 PST (#11 of 14)

I have to use...

I have to use Filemaker Pro for my printing quote specs, and then go into C&P to enter estimates once the final design/option is chosen. Another advantage about Filemaker Pro, I can edit the format of the quote request sheet and customize it for our agencies use. The Print Spec sheet in C&P is not editable and has a lot of fields I do not use, and is missing other fields for specs that my vendors need to know.

Tashya Taylor


03:04pm Jul 5, 2001 PST (#12 of 14)

I didn't realize...

I didn't realize there was such as pent-up demand for multiple print specs. (I've had more people ask about a customizable form lately, which is a lot harder to do.) I'll look into have multiple print specs (which would work like change orders, I'd guess) for a future update. If anyone's willing to test it, please let me know.

Mark Robillard
Developer, Clients & Profits


03:15pm Apr 24, 2002 PST (#13 of 14)

What has happened with this? is it going to be in an update?

would love to test for you. I am always quoting several optons on brochures. The options vary from page count, size, layout configuration etc. In fact, i think the entire print form needs to be updated. i don't quote much work with "reflective" art.

tammy grimes
boyden & youngblutt


12:03pm Aug 5, 2003 PST (#14 of 14)

I would also be interested

Mark, I run multiple quotes quite often and would me very interested in testing a version with this option for you.



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